Posted, in good faith

posted Let me tell you what you see here. It is a steel post I slammed into the middle of the stream bed. I (or #1 Son) put it there a couple of years ago. This is along my southern property line, the half of it that is not fenced. That quarter-mile stretch is the only bit of property line I have that is not clearly and obviously defined. I've spoken of this before. More than once, I'm sure. Tediously, even. Over the years we've made efforts to define this line, and once we thought we had it figured out, we placed posts along where we thought it ran then tied orange and yellow survey tape to them so they'd be obvious to anyone walking the woods. I don't assert that this is exactly where the legal line runs; it is merely my attempt to show good faith at estimating the line. (After the incident of timber trespass at my other bit of forest in the Missouri Ozarks, I've been nervous about ill-defined property lines.) When we had last checked the records in the courthouse, someone who lived in some place called "California" owned the forty acres on the other side of this line. However, when Good Neighbor Tom and his brother Good Neighbor Fred were by visiting last fall, they mentioned that the daughter and son-in-law of one of them had bought that piece of land. I quickly stated that my posts were not intended to be the legal definition of where the line ran but merely the approximation I described above. They said that whatever it was, it was a good estimation to them. They thought the line of posts must have been very close to the real line. What do I make of this? If they had the property surveyed, as is prudent (though expensive) when buying land, they would know exactly where the line ran. (There was some fresh survey tape on my SW corner last spring, some that I hadn't put there, and that could suggest that a surveyor had been by. But that was also the time when Good Neighbor Brian had the ill-conceived notion of selling his property, so the survey might have been for that land rather than the other. The two pieces touch corners at my SW corner.) If they did know where the line ran, would their quick agreement with my statement suggest I was right about the post placement? Or could it be that I was generous about it, "giving" my neighbors to the south more land than the surveyor did? It's a rough stretch of land. There is no marketable timber there. No minerals to be extracted. No potential home sites. I suspect this area where the two properties meet will remain forever wild, and from what I can see of Good Neighbor Tom and Good Neighbor Fred, we share similar interests toward our property. I feel safe that there won't be any incidents along this line. Still, it's nice to have the posts there. What's also interesting about this photo is that there is actual, running water in that stream bed. All of that was melting slow and perhaps water in the topsoil that was released when the temperature rose above freezing for several days. Missouri calendar:
  • Maple sap flows best now; freezing nights and thawing days cause change.

5 Responses to “Posted, in good faith”

  1. karl Says:

    as i understand it, there are different surveying services. the most expensive being marking the entire length of all property lines. any thing less than that leaves many boundaries open for interpretation by the owners. agreements should be made and defined.

  2. Al Mollitor Says:

    Maybe it’s a Robert Frost thing, but it seems natural to pay attention to neighbors and fences. In my Bliss Hill blog, I tell the (on-going) tale of my efforts to track down a property line. There’s something satisfying in knowing what’s really mine and what’s not.

  3. Walter Jeffries Says:

    Good to have a post. Good to get it clearly established. But don’t let a sliver of rough and worthless land create ill feelings even with absentee neighbors. The sooner it does get set in concrete so to speak the better. How much for a survey? Perhaps even just for that portion?

    As a side note, generally lots are +/- about 10% or so when one looks at the listings. If memory serves you have 40 or 80 acres there? So that is about a 16 acre variance. Just a side thought. Good luck with this.

  4. Beau Says:

    I like your comment that it may “forever be wild”… what a nice thought. Even still, I would go with a survey as well. Never know, maybe there’s gold right around there! Or at least some more round rocks :)

  5. Roxann Says:

    In my very similar boundary situation, we have a stack of rocks on one wild corner and an eyeball line on the other. There once was a pile of tree trunks, but they’ve since rotted into a difficult to establish point of reference. One day I’d like to have it surveyed, but it is expensive, especially when the land is wild and getting around it is difficult.

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